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CHEMMAN
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posted 09-28-1999 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CHEMMAN     
I am posting this to verify and stress Worlocks advice on saturating the aqueous layer with NaCl as it speeds up the extraction process immensely.The layers form into two much quicker and see your yields in such a short time!!

FMAN
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posted 09-30-1999 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FMAN     
Has anybody experimented with extraction ussing janitoria ammonia to assist forming the freebase from saturated salt solution, the solvent becomes stinky and is washed once with water and then the solvent is dessicated, is it in this state it is more likely to degrade and this is why we want to PHing the stuff right away to stabalize our salts?? Anyways how much salt can you make buy doing this because I want to rip the salt apart in the electro forming clorine gass and hydrogen gass and a salt out product NaOH and then I add the NaoH to the and gass it so now the salt is salt HCL NAOH NACL H20 OH ?????

Now if I start with ammonia I can zap of the water or will the ammonia vapo??? I dont think the ammonia is gona vapo is ussing carbon electrodes??? If ussing ammonia will ammonium hydroxide be formed???

HElp post a new thread???

Worlock
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posted 10-01-1999 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Worlock     
That A/B extraction document has been totally rewritten, today, and the revised version will be available in a day or two.

CHEMMAN
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posted 10-01-1999 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CHEMMAN     
Thanks Worlock.Will this be put up on your website .BTW its a beauty.Very informative in all aspects.I have downloaded the whole site for reference.Have you experimented at all with hypophosphorus acid?A bee that a friend knows pays megabucks for it and will not change his method,even when informed of RP instead.Maybee its the way he was taught and its all he knows??

bee charmer
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posted 10-02-1999 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bee charmer     
Worlock
What is your web site address??

bc

FMAN
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posted 10-03-1999 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FMAN     
theres a link look at his profile and click

bee charmer
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posted 10-03-1999 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bee charmer     
Thanks FMAN, I forgot about the profile thing...

bc

FMAN
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posted 10-03-1999 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FMAN     
ok so put the goods into below the membrane and cover this with a great washed and solid glass bead, hop it looks like it gets crazed up for soaking in strong lye solution, man this stuff makes my day
>>>>>>>>..quartz I love it!!!!

anyways the goodies come out as ammonia salt and freebase stuff or salt out like the ammonia, anybody know what to do with the ammonia and gogo compound after this???

Well I think ya just dissociate the ammonia now that ya got is isolated turn it to a gas and offer it a drop of water and poff it is gone????

then make the coolest looking salt crystal you can think of how do you think they discover how to make better CRACK!

Alum>>>>>whats the name???? of the salt product I am thinking..............

ROCHELLE I AM CHANGING MY NAME!!!!!!

---Rochelle Salt---

is this the one that ya eat with cooked baking soda and cream of tartar and a carbonated co2 acid product and it forms a ????? big nasty xtyl ????? weee

Worlock
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posted 10-03-1999 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Worlock     
Yes the entire process from Ephedrine to meth is at
http://www.catrachas.com/alkaline/start.html

The A/B extraction is at
http://www.catrachas.com/alkaline/abworls.html

I would like to set it so the whole package including pictures may be down loaded in one zip file any one how this is done?

Worlock
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posted 10-03-1999 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Worlock     
Bee Charmer,
Please avoid Sci. Alli., tell Gemini too, OK
Thx

Worlock
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posted 10-03-1999 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Worlock     
FMAN or Rochelle salts,

You are pretty excited about these Crystals,
Ammonia is nice since it evapoarates easily,
in basic solution.
In acids it forms a salt.

Nitric acid is great because it's breakdown products are water and a safe volitile gas NO2.

Carbonate will form CO2(gas) and water, plus being di-protic will have two dissociations at different pH levels, therby will form several different precipitates from a single solution at different pH levels.

I'm sure you are already familiar with all that, I write these things because it is the easiest way to get you to divulge more of your experimentally obtained insights, without restricting your creativity by asking specific questions.
Asked a specific question returns a text book response.

By making a couple of general comments, I always get back those graphical mental pictures that result from your description, then I can ACTUALLY VISUALISE WHAT YOU MEAN.

bee charmer
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posted 10-03-1999 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bee charmer     
Worlock:
What is with Sci Ally? Care to elaborate?? Email me if preferred. Gemini wants to know too...

bc

CHEMMAN
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posted 10-03-1999 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CHEMMAN     
Worlock Cant help on the zip file thing.I have a program called web reaper.With it I now have your whole site on my HD I think it would be found if you do a web search.Keep up the good work

SkitterBlitzer
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posted 10-03-1999 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkitterBlitzer     
Had a question for you bees, I have used the search engine to death, about 40 hours worth so please no "use the search engine" replies, as its my first source..I have a product called "Ephedra 250" the kind you buy at GNC, just happen to have this bottle so I want to use it, has like 90 caps, Ingredients are 6% ephedra, from Ma Huang equalling 15 mgs of ephedrine per cap..I could not find a post on extracting the ephedrine from these, only the plants and the guaf mess, Can anyone shed some light on this one, dark caps, have a nice bowl of powder now that I've emptied them..??? thanks in advance..

Peace!

SkitterBlitzer
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posted 10-03-1999 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkitterBlitzer     
Here's the other ingredients on the bottle, forgot in first post.
Cellulose,Calcium Carbonate,Gelatin, and Corn Starch...

Peace!

Barracuda1965
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posted 10-03-1999 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barracuda1965     
Worlock,

Please let me know what is up with Sci Alli.
E-mail if you wish.

Cuda65@hotmail.com

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'Cuda65

Hematite
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posted 10-03-1999 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hematite     
I would think sci/ally to be quite the opposite of a problem, but I cant even cook a real chiili without burning some part of me.

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Regards,Hematite.

FMAN
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posted 10-04-1999 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FMAN     
Treasyr Chest

um no I wassent aware of the neato precipates at differing pH ussing the co

Nitrus sound s fun?? HEHHEHEH

anyways I got a gift?>>>>>>>

Um thinking why not use some gass for your distilation tower like say implement propane or some other cool gass

run this through a pipe and the pipe is real cold condensation all over, at the end port to keep things moving ya just torchair

Makes a cool jet sound and the neighbors will really begin to appreciate the freedom of life?

Roarer

I got some improvement to the fundemantal platform that is pp

But i want to blow some quartz, anybody know which brand of hamster feeded is pyrex, is there any light bulbs that gots pyrex or quartz, aint halloid lights and neon signs full of the good stuff if I take the laundry borax and added to soda glass will it be good enough, has anybody been blowing goods around here

this is the novel>>>

Two of the hamster feeder are hooked up end to end with a rod between them

it affords basically a two way spring valve of the shape and also affords a bleed down orfice

the reaction vessel is fully submerged or floated , you contol allmost ever aspect of critical temature and pressure an d are sheilded

the reaction vessel is heated with subersmersiable wrapped with coils so that a piezio pulse can cause the spinner if necessary this is a milti tool good for all processes simple cheap and disposable

the reaction vessel is filled with some spen rod for boiling chip and clearance issues

The tubes may need at least some improvision as far as guides spring floats weights whatever to regulate gas flow to from into around

the thing can be made to rotate from applied centrifugal exhaust manifolds, the entire may be rotated with ambient pressure from inside the reaction vessel

the saftey pop off is a syringe or asperation bottle, do not needle pook the rubber
a syring or sutiable type may be employed inside the asperator bottle to also monitior pressure regulation back up the bulb is depressed, a bucket cetcher may come in handy should you exceede the pressure limitation of the bulb depression curve, cause after compensating for the pressure problem water might necessarly be added prematurely

I would volatize the final work with a needle electrode on filter paper soaked with the goods get go go go or the java???

Anyways between two slides apply voltage to pin hole and it should crystalize like snow flake and leave at least some indication of quality control imprint for reference

The rochelle salt could be the bullet we have been waiting for though I am very partial to the fat purple pill prilosec

Anyways matbe the iodine will poof off all the way from the needle ellectro procedure

Ussing water and divided ellectro and reentraining gas and igniting the surpluss and have high pressure venturi available use uv and pocket laser to detect colloid this is the bullet the colloid it will trace you back from the store area

Anyways the Iodine should frree up real good just like the clorine in a salt riping secession

I am partial to the addajunctive workup product ussing the Sodium bisulphate and other stuff can has been discovery as of late like making h2s04 and other stuff

Um yea the addative thisulhate thing>>>>
makes beder get go go feul rocket good

Maybe adding the boron would go well if very smallish was tested who knows

Use inhaler or respriatory fluid I am partial to respriatory osmotic stuff and therapists and dumpsters are allways around and full of goods

The other stimulants are probably even better dont forget the brophion

Um the wort is in it seems at least for now it is pseudolegal

There are legal isomers!!!!

There are legal isomers????

Anyways result of paving your path with real asphault will be worth it in the end I hope though this is a real gambit, might as well pla along the legal end

Distilation is the gretest hurt next to solvent and lab grade surpluss hanging around, the pp is more than a little novel so learn it and make it clandestine

Now about the ellectro and lithium can I use the pills from some maniac???

I got a bunch of ins so ride on well then

---Actually goodest reporting stuff

Try the alum shield like a window screen

Apply voltage protect cathode from rain out
saturate solution with al then remove protection and oscilate frequency with piezio use employ hold the metaloid in the solution until all the water is solvated, forcing you know whatever it is that ya discover in there????

I never did freeze the solution anywways I am still awaiting discovery before experiment got any??

---War Glider---

Hematite
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posted 10-04-1999 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hematite     
Hey after you've finished that, give me a shout cause I'd love you to take me up in that for a cruise around. I wondered is it an aviation license you need for it ? Or is it classed interplanetary?
Keep it up dude. at least you stay awake lots like I do, I remember when a certain chick used to flirt shamelessly and let me write her the filthiest e-mails in the small hours as we did our hive/based research.

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Regards,Hematite.

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